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Katie: Hey and welcome to the Wellness Mama podcast. I’m Katie from wellnessmama.com. And this episode is with one in every of my pricey private associates and it’s all about back-to-school well being routines and stress administration for the entire household. And I’m right here with Tina Anderson, who you might need heard from earlier than. I’ll hyperlink to her earlier episodes within the present notes, however she is, like I mentioned, an expensive private buddy and somebody whose work I respect deeply.
Her journey into the well being world was fairly distinctive. She truly started her profession as a trial lawyer who specialised in settling circumstances by bringing either side collectively, which is a private ardour of hers. However as soon as she had children, she realized that was actually excessive stress for her household. And so she was in a position to make use of her authorized abilities to level her profession in a course because the in-house counsel for a household firm in prescribed drugs. However what she noticed there made her change course once more, as a result of she was pissed off by lots of the abuses she noticed within the pharmaceutical business. And she or he turned towards the sphere of pure well being and located her life’s work and objective.
And she or he started to analysis all she might about illness prevention and good well being upkeep and acquired deeply into intestine well being and the way related the intestine is for general well being. And so to share all of this info with the world, she and her husband created a complement firm largely based mostly round probiotics. They usually now have a complete line of actually impactful dietary supplements that my household takes.
However on this episode, we go deep on the subject of preparing for again to highschool. We discuss parenting, mindset, together with a incredible technique that her dad used that helped form her optimistic mindset. We discuss her life mantra that I realized from her. After which we go deep on key components for good intestine well being, the most important myths about probiotics, what to know when on the lookout for a probiotic, how 90% of serotonin is produced within the intestine, what psychobiotics are, and a lot extra. It’s all the time a pleasure to speak to Tina. So let’s be a part of her now. Tina, welcome again.
Tina: Thanks, Katie. I’m so excited to be right here with you.
Katie: It’s all the time a pleasure to speak to you. We’re very a lot actual life associates and I additionally think about you want one of many folks I am going to for recommendation. You’ve acquired children who are actually grown and who you’ve gotten superior relationships with. And I really like having you as a sounding board and a buddy. And I’m glad that at present I get to ask you a few of those self same questions and we get to document it and let others share the dialog as nicely. So I’m very grateful that you simply’re right here.
And for this episode, we wished to give attention to the theme of again to highschool. I do know I’m gearing up for that with my children proper now. A whole lot of different households most likely are as nicely. And you’ve got no less than greater than 18 years of expertise of this along with your children and their varied completely different ages. So I really feel like this can be a matter that might be a complete collection of episodes each on the bodily well being facet, the psychological well being facet, the stress aid facet, the group, the getting again in a routine. There’s so many issues we might cowl. However to start out broad, I might love to listen to when you guys had any kind of traditions, routines or something in your loved ones across the again to highschool time.
Tina: Yeah, you already know, I feel what I simply have such fond recollections of is simply the entire going again to highschool buying. You recognize, they liked getting their faculty provides once they had been little and, you already know, we’d all the time exit for ice cream afterwards and simply form of make it form of enjoyable, just a little custom. And so, after which we’d do, you already know, the opposite enjoyable half was like discovering on the market’s a trainer, you already know, once they return to highschool they usually discover out their trainer and it will, it will, we’d all go collectively and it will be this unveiling. And it was simply, it was enjoyable. There was stress concerned in it as a result of we’re like, oh, what in the event that they don’t get a buddy that they need of their class and all that. But it surely was, it was all the time, we all the time tried to make it actually enjoyable.
Katie: I really like that. I feel my expertise is just a little completely different with homeschooling, though we do nonetheless the college buying half. However for us, it’s like gearing up for the sports activities they usually nonetheless have very energetic social lives, however normally by their actions versus by faculty. However one factor I do know that may be a concern for lots of households is, and particularly with youthful children, that again to highschool part and reintroducing with an even bigger group of individuals tends to even be typically just a little little bit of an immune system problem. Plus we’ve got all through, as we undergo the autumn, the climate cools down, we’re getting much less vivid gentle and daylight, extra indoors, extra all these items that may kind of construct as much as form of take successful on our immune system.
And so one factor I take into consideration so much this time of yr is we’re shifting into that’s what are a few of the issues we will proactively do to maintain our our bodies, our immune programs and our bodily well being optimum, even whereas we’re placing much more inputs into it? So do you’ve gotten any methods for that, for conserving our immune system sturdy, for conserving from getting sick as a lot as potential as we return into the college, the college form of routine?
Tina: Nicely, I feel you hit the nail on the pinnacle with not being exterior as a lot and never seeing the brightness and the sunshine. I feel we’ve got to be extra prescriptive about being exterior within the solar and getting a good quantity of sunshine in the course of the day, even within the winter months and the autumn months, such as you talked about. I feel we’re, and these children are simply sitting down all day. In the summertime, they’re operating round, enjoying, shifting their our bodies far more than they’re in the course of the faculty yr. And I feel simply attempting to get them to be shifting extra. And I feel as dad and mom, we simply, I imply, the errors I made, I feel was with my oldest, particularly, I might be like, oh, we acquired to get good grades and we have to give attention to this.
And, you already know, now, my God, now I see a lot extra clearly and understand that there have been so many, there have been so many different vital issues to be specializing in, like getting the daylight and getting, and never being so pressured, placing a lot strain on our children with grades and, and the way you, you already know, what you probably did on this report and simply focusing extra on well being and wellness. And I feel I did that extra with my youngest. I used to be far more in keeping with attempting to get him exterior extra and being out in nature. So I feel that may be one space to start out along with your immune system, simply attempting to get some extra exterior sunshine and be extra energetic as a result of we simply turn out to be so sedentary after we had been again to highschool.
Katie: That’s so true. And also you’re undoubtedly one in every of my inspirations on this as a result of I’ve gotten to journey with you a couple of occasions and seen your routine. And also you’re so good about getting morning daylight, which I do know I’ve talked about on right here so many occasions and the way vital that’s for our circadian well being. And likewise you’re like such an inspiration in going for walks exterior. I do know we’ve had conversations the place we went for a stroll, even in some form of fascinating areas like downtown New Orleans at completely different occasions.
However I really feel like that is perhaps one in every of many causes that you’re such a ball of vitality is that you simply make time, intentional time for motion and time exterior, which it’s humorous that we’d like science to remind us of this, however the research simply hold form of displaying up about why these issues are so vital. And I really feel such as you’re such a great instance of that.
Tina: Yeah, nicely, thanks. I liked it. And I might stroll my children to highschool. I used to be in a neighborhood that allowed us to try this. And I feel that when you can stroll your children to highschool and you’ve got the flexibleness to do it, I used to be lucky. I labored from residence. I used to be in a position to stroll them to highschool, however simply getting them began out, strolling is so vital. I feel, after which simply, after which, you already know, even in highschool, you already know, numerous children are driving going again to highschool and it’s, and I simply assume attempting to get them to simply be energetic and transfer extra and simply empowering them with that. I feel that’s the opposite factor as dad and mom.
I’ve realized is that you could’t simply inform them one thing, you already know, it’s essential to present them the analysis and it’s a must to present, like have them watch a documentary a few matter that you simply need to educate them about simply because that’s how they actually begin to empower themselves and actually then they’re going to make the adjustments. They’re not going to make the change. They could make the adjustments quickly once you inform them, however when, you already know, they’re empowered by the information and understanding of what’s occurring within the analysis, they’re going to start out making higher adjustments.
Katie: I agree. And that’s a recurring theme, I feel, when anytime we discuss parenting on this Podcast can also be, to your level, the significance of modeling. And I feel it’s so true that that saying that mentioned in many alternative methods to many alternative folks, the concept that what we are saying is vital they usually’ll typically pay attention, however they’re going to pay much more consideration to what we do, even when they faux they’re not or if they struggle to not, that’s what’s going to stay within the long-term.
And so I feel as mothers, particularly, such as you mentioned, that is what helps us to maintain that focus of us modeling the factor is definitely the factor that’s going to profit them probably the most. That is most likely why we see that statistic {that a} mother’s train and health stage truly has a dramatic influence on her children. It’s as a result of I consider that modeling and them seeing it, which by us doing it, it truly offers them permission to prioritize it as nicely. And so I really feel like that is one in every of my core kind of parenting rules is perhaps converse much less and mannequin extra.
Tina: Sure, yeah, I really like that. I completely agree with you.
Katie: What about any ideas for, so my oldest are simply now within the teenage years, any ideas for conserving good traces of communication and good relationship along with your children as they undergo the teenage years and into maturity? As a result of I do know from interacting with your loved ones, you’ve gotten an superior relationship with your entire children and a really shut, each rapid and prolonged household. And I feel that’s so stunning. So any ideas for nurturing that?
Tina: Yeah, thanks. I imply, it’s what I’m most pleased with in my life is my household that we constructed and the connection that I’ve with my children. And you already know, it’s so humorous, so many individuals have requested me this. And I feel one of many issues I keep in mind when my children had been in highschool and you already know, perhaps they weren’t participating within the actions that different folks had been so far as, you already know, perhaps the behaviors they weren’t speculated to be doing. My children had been like, oh, I don’t need to do this.
And, and other people would say like, how did you’ve gotten your children not do this at that age? And I’m like, I don’t, I don’t actually know aside from I simply made residence a really protected place. Not, not simply protected. All of us need to make our residence protected, however extra like comfy that it’s okay that it’s Friday evening and also you’re a sophomore in highschool and also you don’t have plans. Like that’s okay. Simply hang around with us and be at residence with us.
And I by no means, like I might by no means be like, oh, what are your folks doing? You recognize, why aren’t you going out? And nicely, can’t you discover any plans? Or I might all the time simply make it like, oh, what do you, what are we going to do Friday evening? What would you like for dinner with, you already know, dad and I? And so I might, it was extra about, you already know, making it regular that they had been residence with us and never like it’s a must to be comply with the social norms of like doing issues.
They did loads of social actions in highschool, however you already know, all of them undergo levels the place associates perhaps begin to change and teams begin to change. And I simply assume it’s vital that we make it regular that hang around with us. And for us, I imply, that’s simply the way in which we love hanging out with one another. And I feel that was actually vital. And never being so strict. I feel the much less strict we’re, and I imply, children want boundaries. I’m an enormous proponent of that. I feel children, particularly in youngsters, undoubtedly want boundaries, however simply, you already know, not being so judgmental about perhaps they made a mistake they usually made a selection that they shouldn’t have made, however not judging them on a regular basis and making them really feel dangerous about issues. I feel that has actually helped us be very open about issues.
Katie: That’s such an amazing level, particularly in these cases the place they make a mistake as a result of they’re most likely going to be taught sufficient from that lesson from having made the error and possibly be harder on themselves than we might be. And so I really feel like if we will allow them to hold the possession of that, not take it away from them by judging them externally and never having to have them justify it and defend, which I feel then places extra vitality into the motion itself. I really like that method.
And I feel additionally you touched on one thing invaluable, which is it doesn’t matter what age they’re, we will’t, I overlook who mentioned this, however we will’t make them and we will’t repair them. Like all these issues have to come back from inside them. And so if we will view it as how can we assist them in these classes and be the protected place they’ll be taught these classes with out judgment, I feel that actually helps that relationship. And I additionally love, it looks as if you do that so nicely in your house, of being the place the place not simply your children, however anyone can go and it’s a spot of unconditional love. And that was what I all the time actually wished to intention for. And it appears to be enjoying out with my youngsters is I wished to be the place the place they all the time felt comfy having their associates, the place all people was all the time welcome. I’ll feed anyone’s child who’s in my home and hopefully they all the time really feel that there’s unconditional love there. I feel that’s like an intangible that we will’t put a worth on, however one which like hopefully actually helps that relationship for our complete lives with our children.
Tina: Yeah, and I imply, you’re a full mannequin of that. I imply, I keep in mind being over and having all these children round and simply everybody having a lot enjoyable and being energetic. And it’s actually vital to have your private home be that manner for everybody. I additionally assume like to the touch upon grades, I feel that’s one of many largest classes as a mum or dad I realized. I imply, I used to be so completely different parenting my oldest than my youngest. And I feel we’ve got to simply give attention to studying. I’m positive you discuss this on a regular basis, Katie, I do know you do, however it’s like, you already know, the grade will not be, I simply really feel prefer it’s nearly irrelevant.
You recognize, I imply, what I give attention to, particularly my youngest is in school now, I’m like, simply give attention to studying. I simply need you to be taught. The grade, your GPA means nothing to me. It means it ought to imply nothing to you. It’s like, and you already know, typically once you’re studying and also you’re actually specializing in studying, no matter it’s, the grades fall into place. However I feel we simply get so caught up, particularly in highschool with, you already know, learning for, attempting to get into faculties and all the social patterns that we’re speculated to comply with. I simply would warning all people to simply have your give attention to studying. Attempt to get your youngster to like to study no matter matter it’s and in no matter method it’s. It doesn’t must be within the classroom. It might be Ted Talks, it might be no matter it’s.
Katie: Completely. That’s a ability that may serve you your complete life and that hopefully all of us as adults are nonetheless doing day by day in some kind. However you’re proper. I feel I didn’t be taught that lesson till maturity. I very a lot was so fearful about grades in highschool and I feel I connected elements of my id to how nicely I did at school. And it was an amazing factor to love un-pattern and like go off later in life. But it surely’s one thing I’ve been conscious of with my children of attempting to by no means assist or not like form of facilitate a mindset the place they really feel like their price is connected to their efficiency in any space, whether or not it’s sports activities, whether or not it’s faculty, however to give attention to the core rules of curiosity and studying and connecting the dots and having enjoyable and overcoming challenges as a result of these are the talents which might be going to really translate into grownup life and no matter they find yourself selecting, which could not be one thing within the educational subject, however these are the extra like mushy abilities which might be going to serve them in any facet of life.
And I feel that’s an ideal springboard additionally into the mindset dialog, which is one other space the place you’re undoubtedly a supply of inspiration for me. And I do know folks have heard me say down right here, the road I acquired from you, which is that the whole lot will work out completely for me. And you’re such a supply of positivity and also you carry that vitality to any group that you’re in. And so I might love to listen to, I do know we’ve talked about this just a little bit in our different podcasts, however what had been a few of your huge kind of sources of inspiration or studying in mindset and in crafting that mindset?
Tina: Yeah, nicely, thanks, Katie. That’s fairly a praise coming from you. So, yeah, mindset is a big a part of my life. My father truly used to wake me up within the morning and inform me I’m getting higher and higher day by day in each manner. And it was, it was, and I believed, you already know, God, that’s so bizarre that my dad does this on a regular basis. And little did I do know what it did for me for my, the remainder of my life. And he simply taught me about how I, you already know, you create your future, you create your life and it’s the phrases that you simply use. Try to be very cautious with the phrases that you simply use.
That, you already know, I talked to him and I’d say one thing like, oh my God, I’m loopy. I can’t imagine I did that. And he’d say, cancel, cancel. Such as you don’t say that. You recognize, don’t ever name your self loopy. Like don’t say that even when it’s simply in a joking manner. Simply taught me the facility of phrases and the vitality that you simply carry to any scenario. He used to again within the day, my God, you already know, I imply, it was a very long time in the past. He wished to have books on tape earlier than books on tape had been a factor. So he would have me dictate Wayne Dyer’s e book right into a tape recorder. And I might examine or learn Wayne Dyer. And naturally I used to be not paying consideration as a result of I used to be like, I don’t care about this, however I feel subconsciously that was all ingrained in me.
And so then Wayne Dyer turned an enormous trainer to me and is the inspiration of our firm. It’s the inspiration of so many issues in my life and the choices I’ve made in I do really feel that, you already know, we actually, we have to do our life’s work. We have to, we might create our future by the, the, the way in which we stay our life. I feel forgiveness is a big facet of it. That’s one of many cool issues that Wayne Dyer talks about so much. And I’ve coached different family and friends members on forgiveness that I feel they’ve had life altering outcomes about. I’m not a coach or something like that. I simply, it’s only a private ardour of mine.
And I really like, yeah, I simply assume our phrases are actually vital and our vitality that we carry to any scenario is actually vital. And, and as you already know, my well-known mantra that I all the time say is the whole lot works out completely for me. And I feel what’s vital about that, folks assume that’s such a daring assertion to say, however the whole lot works out completely for me simply implies that it’s understanding completely for me on this scenario. And it’s not the way in which I essentially wished it to work out, however I do know that it’s understanding completely for me. And I’ve to belief that I’ve to belief that, you already know, the universe is offering for me or God is offering for me.
Katie: Yeah, I’ve that assertion on my wall truly in my bed room now too. And it’s actually truly helped me undertake a few of that mindset as nicely. And to your level, it’s not that the whole lot works out how I need it to work out, however numerous us can most likely look in hindsight at even issues we thought had been very tough throughout no matter level we had been going by them and that we’d haven’t essentially chosen. However then years later, see how that actually shifted the course of our life or supplied a lesson that was actually essential for one thing afterward and see that it actually did work out completely, simply not how we thought completely was going to look.
And now trying again, I may even have a look at the toughest moments of my life and have like deep overwhelming gratitude for them. Regardless that I wouldn’t have chosen them, I can see now I wouldn’t have gotten to go on a few of these journeys I’ve been on had I not had these experiences. And in order that’s one thing I hold prime of thoughts with my children too, is to hopefully assist them have the body of reference to be current in no matter view it as taking place completely, even when it’s not nice or pleasing on a regular basis, and to search for the lesson or to search for the wonder in it, even when it’s one thing that perhaps is tough or arduous.
I additionally love that you simply introduced up forgiveness. I learn the quote years in the past that forgiveness is setting the prisoner free and realizing that the prisoner was your self. And that’s actually all the time stayed with me as a result of I feel typically we expect, oh, I can forgive them in the event that they do that, or if solely they’d apologize, if solely they’d make it proper. And I feel these are two separate issues. Forgiveness is an inner course of that we get to have full freedom over after we select. Making amends is a complete separate factor and that does contain the opposite particular person. However I feel if we will separate the forgiveness piece and understand that we all the time have the power to forgive, it doesn’t matter what the opposite particular person does or doesn’t do, there’s a lot freedom in that. And so it sounds such as you’ve helped folks attain that time so much, which is gorgeous.
Tina: Yeah, it’s wonderful. What occurs is that it opens up their lives. You recognize, I’ve one explicit buddy who had a problem together with his father and abruptly he began forgiving his father and all of those different issues. His profession began taking off. Like his relationships had been even higher than they had been earlier than. So I imply, it’s wonderful what occurs once you forgive and it’s so arduous. And it’s not like I’m saying, oh, forgive someday, you forgive. It’s a course of. However when you simply see that it opens up a lot in your individual life and as dangerous as somebody has handled you, as horrible as one thing that somebody has accomplished to you, when you might get to a degree of forgiveness, you’ll actually begin seeing nice issues occur in your life.
Katie: Yeah, and other people have most likely heard me discuss this earlier than as nicely, however for years I used to be doing all of the bodily well being stuff that I knew tips on how to do and dealing with all of the docs and had spreadsheets for the whole lot, attempting to repair all my bodily well being issues. And it wasn’t till I additionally addressed that interior emotional facet and altered my mindset that each one the bodily stuff began working. And it actually highlighted for me how not solely are the thoughts and physique related and you may’t view both one in isolation, but in addition how highly effective the interior work is for even shifting our bodily well being.
And I feel we perhaps can all consider examples of somebody who simply continues to have well being issues perhaps, however they’ve a mindset that’s kind of like manifesting of their bodily well being or folks such as you who’ve this the whole lot works out completely for me mindset and who like appear to be thriving and limitless vitality. And I feel that not all the time is {that a} trigger and impact relationship, actually by any means, however that these are actually invaluable components to recollect it’s each/and, not both or on the subject of these items.
Tina: Nicely, completely. And I, you already know, I’m clearly interviewed on fairly a couple of podcasts about intestine well being, and I’m all the time speaking about the truth that we have to meditate, we have to do deep respiratory or acupuncture, therapeutic massage, no matter it’s that calms you down. We should be doing these items to be taking good care of our intestine well being. After which the reverse is true. You recognize, it’s essential to be taking good care of your intestine well being to ship indicators again to the mind. And, you already know, it’s like we’ve got to keep in mind that what’s occurring mentally is affecting us bodily and vice versa. What’s occurring bodily will probably be affecting us mentally. However they each precisely, they’re each working collectively.
Katie: And also you additionally talked in regards to the phrases that we are saying being so vital. And I really like this level as nicely. I’ve tried to concentrate to so much, particularly any phrases that come after the phrases I’m, as a result of I really feel like that’s actually highly effective for what we’re telling our brains and our our bodies. However I’ve realized slowly and this was a course of as nicely. However the interior discuss particularly that I had in direction of myself had a direct influence on my mindset and on my bodily well being as nicely. And also you talked about one saying that your dad would use with you. I’m curious in case you have another ideas for kind of nurturing a optimistic mindset towards oneself, as a result of it looks as if for many individuals that’s truly probably the most tough to beat. Like we may be type and the way we converse to our children and our companions and our associates, however typically studying to talk kindly to ourselves may be the most important impediment.
Tina: Isn’t that the reality? I imply, and I work at this day by day and I feel it’s nonetheless arduous for me, you already know, I feel one of many issues that has helped me is simply doing each day morning affirmations. So I’ve my affirmations and it simply units the day trip to start out out on a great notice and saying phrases which might be affirming the way in which that you simply need to stay your day and your life.
So I feel optimistic affirmations and the opposite factor is like I’ll discover myself beating myself up as a result of I mentioned one thing like, oh, you already know, God, these pants are tight on me. After which I’m like, why am I consuming like a pig? Or, you already know, I say one thing like, I’m like, oh my God, Tina, you already know higher than to speak like that to your self. And and I’m like, OK, now I can’t beat myself up about it both. So I feel like acknowledge that you simply do. All of us do this. We are saying issues that we shouldn’t be saying. However I and that’s what’s helped me is saying, would I say that to my daughter? You recognize, would I say that to my mother? Would I say that to a buddy? And no, I imply, if I’m not going to say it to them, like, by how can I say it to myself? And we’ve got to remind ourselves of that.
However I feel saying the morning affirmations is so highly effective to start out your day trip. Simply consider one thing like I’m good well being or I’m I’m wholesome. I really feel good. I look good. No matter it’s that you simply’re engaged on and the way you need to set your intentions for the day. I’ve a number of. I modify them up. I’ve one which’s like enterprise associated, one which’s private associated, one which’s well being associated. So no matter it’s, I attempt to use these mantras, some that I’ve mentioned for most likely 10 years. So I feel it’s simply vital to phrases are highly effective. And I do imagine our unconscious thoughts absorbs these phrases. And so be very prescriptive in regards to the phrases that you simply say to your self.
Katie: I really like that recommendation. And I really like that we acquired to get into the mindset facet first, as a result of I actually do imagine, like we’ve talked about, that this can be a actually large key, even on the subject of bodily well being, and that usually it’s ignored or typically it feels insurmountable. And I feel any, even small child steps make an enormous distinction in that space. And so I really like that we acquired to the touch on that.
However I do know that you simply even have a ton of experience within the bodily well being facet and particularly in intestine well being. And I feel that is additionally essential at the moment of yr particularly, not simply because typically when folks return to highschool, their meals can change just a little bit as a result of numerous occasions you’re consuming in school now or packing lunches, but in addition as a result of like we talked about, gentle’s altering, your immune system is altering and its inputs at that time, perhaps sleep is altering since you’ve acquired children have extra homework they usually’re up later. There’s a lot occurring there.
And it looks as if we’ve heard sufficient a lot from all these research about intestine well being being completely linked to all points of well being, that something we will do this helps our intestine well being truly has optimistic ripple results into all areas of well being, from sleep to emphasize to in fact, digestion to pores and skin and on and on and on. So I do know that this is sort of a life’s work and a ardour for you and that you’ve put in numerous hours into determining the most effective options for intestine well being.
However I might love so that you can begin broad and stroll us by what are a few of the core rules of fine intestine well being, whether or not it’s issues which might be higher to keep away from, issues which might be nice to eat, whether or not it’s stress components, what are the massive needle movers on the subject of intestine well being?
Tina: Nicely, initially, I’m so glad that you simply talked about that the truth that intestine well being has to do with nearly each facet of our general well being. And naturally, 80% of our immune system is present in our intestine. So we’re attempting so arduous to love ramp up our children and ourselves, our immune system as we head into fall and winter. And we’ve got to recollect, we’ve acquired to give attention to our intestine well being as a result of it’s actually dictating each facet, nearly each facet of our general well being and primarily our immune system. So you’re completely proper to say that.
So a few of the issues I feel to keep away from, you already know, sadly, the world we stay in is so detrimental to our intestine micro organism. You recognize, our intestine is comprised of all these helpful microorganisms, primarily micro organism. And we all know that we live on this world that’s so offensive to our intestine well being. So one of many largest issues is antibiotics. So we all know now to keep away from antibiotics and as a lot as potential, however they’re present in animal merchandise, they’re present in our meals provide. So we’ve got to attempt to be very conscious of the meals that we’re consuming that wouldn’t have antibiotics in them.
Additionally with Glyphosate, which is the energetic ingredient in Roundup, and it’s sprayed throughout our produce. And that’s so detrimental to our intestine well being. A whole lot of family and private care merchandise are very detrimental. A whole lot of shampoos, toothpaste, which is why I might clearly suggest all people take, you already know, use Wellnesse as a result of I imply, initially, it’s so good for our hair anyway. I really like the way in which it makes my hair really feel. My dad now loves it. It’s so humorous. So I undoubtedly assume we’ve got to be aware of our private care merchandise, too, as a result of they’re simply loaded with all of those toxins.
So there’s chemical substances and toxins throughout our, you already know, the world that we’re dwelling in. And so we actually should be specializing in taking good care of our intestine well being. Sadly, the soil that we’re consuming off of doesn’t have numerous the microbes that we actually had been used to getting our ancestors used to get. So we, you already know, it’s good to eat fermented meals. Positively would suggest fermented meals, simply not as a substitute for a top quality probiotic. That’s the place I feel the massive mistake is made, is folks assume fermented meals is a substitute for a probiotic. It has tons of vitamins. It’s very supportive of your intestine well being, however it’s not a substitute for a probiotic. It doesn’t as a result of the massive… you already know, facet of probiotics, in fact, is survivability. And the spore-based probiotic strains that we work with truly, we all know survive and get to the intestines alive.
So I might actually give attention to avoiding, like antibiotics, avoiding Glyphosate, which is the energetic ingredient in Roundup, and give attention to consuming natural meals, actually consuming fermented meals, after which taking a high-quality probiotic can be, you already know, actually supportive of your intestine well being, and doing issues like meditation, strolling in nature, being exterior, getting within the daylight. All these issues are actually vital for our intestine well being.
Katie: And we did a complete episode about this, so I’ll hyperlink to it within the present notes. Folks can go actually deep. But in addition I really feel like there’s numerous myths surrounding probiotics. So I really like that you simply touched on that fermented meals and probiotics, each vital however separate, they don’t exchange one another. We’d like the fiber and the enzymes and the whole lot that comes with fermented meals. And likewise there’s issues particular to probiotics that aren’t essentially simply going to be in fermented meals. However I really feel like there’s many extra myths past that. And lots of of them are nonetheless quite common, like issues round refrigerated probiotics or what strains are finest and in the event that they survive within the intestine or not.
And so I might love so that you can break down a few of these myths as nicely and discuss in regards to the distinction between spore based mostly probiotics and different probiotics. As a result of this was new info to me after I first met you.
Tina: Yeah, so the most important fantasy is the refrigeration fantasy. You recognize, so many, even docs will say, oh, with a purpose to be a great probiotic, it must be refrigerated. And the rationale why they mentioned that was as a result of, you already know, you want a stay microorganism with a purpose to even be outlined as a probiotic. So a probiotics definition is a stay microorganism that confers a profit onto the host, which is the physique. So that they’re considering, oh, nicely, with a purpose to be alive, it must be within the fridge. However when you consider it, if a probiotic pressure must be alive, to, they’ll’t even stand up to the room temperature of the shop shelf. It must be within the fridge to remain alive. What on the earth will occur when it goes into your physique, which is 98.6, a lot hotter than the room temperature of the shop shelf? And the reply is that they’re gonna die.
And let’s say the temperature doesn’t even kill them. By the point they get to the abdomen, which may be very acidic and meant to be the gastric barrier, the vast majority of strains available on the market are simply killed off by that temperature, the physique temperature, in addition to the acid within the abdomen. So this concept of a probiotic needing to be refrigerated with a purpose to be a great probiotic might be one of many largest myths on the market. And it nonetheless must be debunked. The factor with the strains that we work with, they’re truly dormant. They’re not stay, like within the bottle, they’re not alive. They’re truly dormant. After which once they get to the intestines, in order that they make that journey out of your throat by the gastric system. And once they get into the intestines, that’s once they take their spore shell off. And that’s once they go into their stay vegetative cell, stay vegetative cell state. And that’s once they begin doing the magic within the microbiome.
So we’ve got to recollect, a probiotic doesn’t should be alive within the fridge. A probiotic must be alive in your intestines. And that’s one of many largest myths. So we actually wanna be sure that the probiotic is alive within the intestines.
After which I feel one of many different huge myths out there’s that you simply want a excessive rely, a excessive CFU rely. So CFU is Colony Forming Items. You’ll see that on the entrance of the bottle. It’ll say 50 billion CFUs, 250 billion CFUs. Now you see one thing with 500 billion CFUs. And there’s truly no research. There are not any research behind displaying extra is best. The truth is, there’s research displaying now that like typically when you’ve gotten plenty of completely different strains and many completely different excessive variety of CFU truly might trigger some points and we might go into that later.
However the vital factor to know is of these three billion or nevertheless many billion CFUs you’ve gotten at a product, what sort of change are they making within the intestine? And one of many first research we did was one thing known as a intestine mannequin examine. And we solely have three billion CFUs in our product. And we noticed a 30% favorable shift within the intestine after solely two and a half weeks. And that is profound to see that kind of a change in such a brief period of time with simply three billion CFUs. And so, don’t get caught up within the 50 billion, 500 billion. That’s actually all advertising. And there’s actually no analysis behind that.
Katie: That’s so good to know. And the factor I liked about this after I realized that was that it meant that now I might get probiotics to my children far more simply as a result of the refrigerated ones wanted to be taken in these very particular circumstances and also you wished the youngsters to swallow them and numerous my youthful ones on the time couldn’t swallow tablets.
However after I realized in regards to the spore-based ones and the way they may survive by the intestine and survive at warmth, I noticed I might combine these into meals, into smoothies, and it was a lot, a lot simpler to get them for my children than in the event that they needed to swallow a tablet solely. And so I really like that.
And I feel you guys have made this even simpler now as a result of the gummies simply acquired to my home lately and my little ones are virtually addicted to those. However I might guess it’s an analogous idea as a result of they’re secure and might survive all the way in which to the small gut. It’s nice to chew them. It’s nice for them to be in a gummy they usually nonetheless get digested and assimilated the identical manner.
Tina: Yep, precisely. Precisely. It’s actually, that’s what’s so nice about these spores is that they’re so sturdy that we truly examined them. You had talked about we might open them and blend them with meals. You could possibly truly bake with them. We examined them as much as 455 levels they usually stay fully secure. So you might bake them and no matter when you’re making some kind of muffin or brownie or one thing you might do or no matter. As I used to place in my son’s piping sizzling oatmeal. And that’s, it’s actually, good for youths to have the ability to have that possibility.
I imply, numerous adults don’t even prefer to swallow tablets. After which in fact the gummy is simply, oh my God, that’s been actually thrilling as a result of they style so good. I imply, they style actually good. In order that’s been actually vital. And that’s vital to us simply to have the compliance so far as folks taking it. And I feel once they style good, folks will take it extra typically. And in order that was extra vital to us. We waited a protracted, very long time to provide a gummy as a result of we had been like, oh, you already know, there’s some substances that aren’t as nice as we’d prefer to be. We prefer to be tremendous, tremendous clear, however we did the least quantity of something and we had been simply in a position to, you already know, we wish compliance. It’s actually vital for us to have compliance with taking the product. And that appears to be what the gummy is doing.
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Katie: And one other cool factor on the subject of intestine well being that really I feel ties in and circles again to, again to highschool as nicely, is that research regularly are displaying that a lot of our neurotransmitters are made in our intestine, truly, and the intestine’s known as the second mind, and there’s so many connections there.
And I do know for lots of mothers particularly, this can be a time of yr the place there’s extra stress, extra overwhelm, actually extra operating children round, extra scheduling. And it seems that we will truly actually use supporting our intestine to our benefit on the subject of stress and psychological well being as nicely. And also you guys have accomplished some fairly fascinating work round particular strains which might be tied in right here. So I might love so that you can clarify that as a result of I’ve been utilizing JustCalm so much these days, and it looks as if it actually does make a noticeable distinction on stress, however I might love so that you can clarify why.
Tina: Yeah, so simply the intestine alone, simply taking the spore-based probiotic alone, our signature product goes to assist with that as a result of we all know 90% of our serotonin is produced in our intestine. Dopamine is produced in our intestine. GABA, which is the calming hormone, is produced in our intestine. So it’s so critically vital to be specializing in our intestine well being after we’re speaking about psychological well being and our temper. We see this on a regular basis. So many individuals will perhaps come to our product as a result of they’ve fuel or bloating or diarrhea, constipation, no matter it could be, after which they’ll say to us, oh my gosh, you already know what, like I’m beginning to, like, I’m in a greater temper. I’ve extra vitality. I imply, would this have something to do with the probiotic? And I’m like, sure. You recognize, within the pharmaceutical business, it’s like, Unwanted effects embrace suicidal ideas, dying, all these horrible issues. And it’s like right here uncomfortable side effects embrace higher temper, extra vitality and higher weight administration we’ve even seen.
So we all know that the probiotic alone helps with simply the leakiness of the intestine. You could possibly return, such as you mentioned, to a different episode and we might discuss leaky intestine. And we all know that when you’ve gotten a leaky intestine, that’s the irritation will begin going to a lot of your completely different organs, one in every of which is your mind. And that’s a part of what causes the problem. However now we’ve been specializing in the analysis that you simply talked about with this pressure known as Bifidobacterium Longum 1714. And this pressure known as a psychobiotic. And a psychobiotic is a probiotic pressure that’s serving to assist that gut-brain entry. So we all know we’ve got this intestine mind entry. It’s the communication superhighway, I prefer to name it, as a result of the intestine is sending indicators to the mind and the mind is sending indicators to the intestine. And we’ve identified this for a very long time.
We all know after we’re enthusiastic about one thing, we get butterflies in our abdomen. We all know after we’re nervous, we begin to go to the lavatory. These are all connections, these are all indicators going forwards and backwards from the intestine to the mind, the mind to the intestine.
And so we all know that this Bifidobacterium Longum 1714 Pressure that’s present in our JustCalm product truly has been in a position, it’s been proven in research to have folks have a greater notion of stress. So simply that capability to deal with stress higher truly helps carry us extra into that theta waves like mindset, so we’re extra in that circulate state. We all know that it’s truly serving to with cognitive operate and talent to focus higher. So it was some actually compelling research on the 1714 pressure.
Katie: That’s so fascinating. And naturally, the opposite part that we all know that’s very well studied right here is again to the immune system part and that when our intestine well being is compromised, our immune well being is by nature compromised as nicely. And it looks as if there’s a really sturdy hyperlink with irritation right here. And it looks as if increasingly research simply hold pointing towards the widespread hyperlink between most continual ailments truly being rooted in irritation in lots of circumstances. And so anytime we will profit our intestine well being and provides it the chance to scale back irritation within the physique and to course of that extra successfully, it looks as if it is also gonna have a very optimistic influence for the intestine.
However are there any particular methods, particularly as we transfer into form of chilly and flu season that additionally may help assist immune well being particularly from a gut-focused perspective?
Tina: Yeah, so all the conventional issues that I talked about, after which we’ve got a IgG product, which is an immunoglobulin G that has been actually, actually supportive. I imply, it’s actually supportive of the liner of your intestine, actually supportive of your immune system. We all know that IgG is mainly an antibody that helps assault the, any viruses, toxins, issues like that, that are available, that our physique naturally makes immunoglobulin G. And we all know that this IgG product that we’ve got truly offers us 25% extra of the IgG in our intestine, which is so vital as a result of 90% of our immune system is present in our intestine. In order that’s one other technique that we like to make use of, particularly, you already know, as you get into the autumn and winter months. I personally take all of it yr lengthy as a result of I feel it’s such a fricking phenomenal product. However I additionally, you already know, I perceive that perhaps folks may need to simply take it, you already know, within the fall and winter season, however I might extremely suggest that.
After which simply is from an immune perspective viewpoint is simply what we simply hold speaking about, like calming ourselves down as a result of it actually does make a distinction on how our intestine is functioning. We’ve acquired to calm ourselves down and we live on this world that’s so, so, everybody’s stressed. It’s like nearly like, you already know, you get an award for being extra stressed and being busier. And I don’t need, we discuss modeling for our children. We are able to’t mannequin that to our children. Now we have acquired to, you already know, present them that we’ve got a lot success and happiness after we are simply not stressed on a regular basis and we don’t must do the whole lot and be the whole lot to everybody. So, and I do know it’s arduous as a mother and a younger mother. And I simply, I want somebody had informed me that after I children had been little, simply to, you already know, minimize, give your self grace, go gradual, nothing, the whole lot doesn’t must be good and simply, you already know, focus in your, your psychological well being too.
Katie: Yeah, completely. That’s so vital. And that is purely anecdotal, so not medical recommendation. However with one in every of my daughters, I seen that the mix of IgG and the probiotic appears to actually assist. Really, she had some recurring eczema when she was youthful, and that appeared to assist her physique actually clear that. And she or he doesn’t have it in any respect anymore. So I don’t know if there’s something particular to that within the research, however in her case, that gave the impression to be kind of just like the magic factor that helped her eczema for anyone on the market who might need eczema with their children.
Tina: Yeah, nicely, it’s all in regards to the leakiness of the intestine. With the probiotic alone, we all know we’ve got a double-blind human scientific trial on leaky intestine that’s been actually supportive of the intestine well being, that we all know that’s supporting the intestine, the barrier and the intestinal barrier. And now we all know that the IgG product is additional assist of that barrier. And simply getting rid, I imply, simply conserving these toxins from seeping into our bloodstream is actually vital when persons are coping with autoimmune points, once they’re coping with allergic reactions. We have to seal up that intestinal barrier. I can’t overstate that sufficient. And people two merchandise are simply such, such large instruments in your toolbox.
Katie: And I do know as somebody who’s a busy enterprise proprietor and a mother and the whole lot else that you’ve in your plate, however you managed to remain, like I mentioned, so energetic and in good well being. So on a private stage, I might love any ideas from you which might be form of your individual private 80-20, whether or not it’s each day habits, each day dietary supplements, something that you simply do as a part of a routine that you simply really feel like contributes to that.
Tina: Yeah, so I get up each morning and I do my affirmations. I meditate after which I am going for my morning stroll that I really like a lot. Even within the winter, I’m from Chicago and I nonetheless will go within the winter and I’ll, you already know, stroll and simply get exterior in nature. And I even love the snow within the winter. So I’m an enormous complement taker. Clearly I take our Simply Thrive Probiotic, our IgG, K2, our Prebiotic. I take all of our merchandise just about as a result of we don’t launch something that I don’t fully agree with or that’s not researched and based mostly in science. That’s been essential to us.
I additionally take Brocelite, a Cell Chlorophane Complement, and I take Vitamin D, Vitamin C, Fish Oil. What else do I take? I take so much. I’m attempting to think about what else I’d, I simply, I take so many, however I’m simply, I’m large. I simply imagine that our soil is so depleted. It doesn’t have the vitamins that we need to be taking.
After which in fact I’ve been specializing in intestine well being as a result of the whole lot else that you simply’re attempting to soak up goes to be absorbed that a lot better when your intestine is wholesome. And I feel that’s what we’ve got to recollect. Now we have a lot irritation occurring in our intestine. And if it’s infected, it’s not absorbing vitamins. So it’s actually vital that I feel folks begin with their intestine well being after which in any other case all these different dietary supplements and all these different wholesome meals that we’re consuming will not be actually working.
I additionally am an enormous fan of intermittent fasting. I feel that folks ought to do it in the event that they assume it really works for them. However for me, it really works nice. I did it, I used to be motivated. I do know so many individuals had been motivated by it to drop some weight. I used to be motivated by it due to the analysis, the way it helped the analysis in intestine well being. It’s very supportive of your intestine well being. We all know that sure micro organism truly proliferate in a starved state. So I’ll do intermittent fasting and I normally simply do like a 14 to 16 hour quick, however no matter works for you. However we do know that there’s analysis behind that.
Katie: I agree. And I do know it’s gotten, there’s considerably like controversy, particularly round girls and fasting, however I all the time form of put intermittent fasting or time-restricted consuming in a separate class as a result of that is traditionally one thing we’ve all the time accomplished in some kind and we’re actually not consuming whereas we’re sleeping. So all of us are literally doing a little type of intermittent fasting anyway. It’s simply experimenting with the timeline of that. And to your level, I feel it is extremely particular person and it’s all the time price being your individual major healthcare supplier and doing the experimentation to determine what’s going to give you the results you want.
For me, after numerous experimentation, I noticed I really feel nice on a time-restricted schedule, particularly if I shift it earlier within the day. That actually tends to assist with circadian biology. So I attempt to get morning daylight as quickly as potential after waking up. After which I attempt to eat in a extra ahead shifted window within the day. So I’ll eat a very nutrient dense breakfast with protein comparatively quickly after waking up. After which I’ll attempt to cease consuming for positive by sundown, however typically by like 5 PM. And I’ve seen that my sleep improves after I shift that consuming window earlier.
And I solely say that as a result of I feel numerous the preliminary intermittent fasting recommendation was from guys and their biology works just a little completely different. And numerous them would skip breakfast and eat it like one or two within the afternoon after which eat until eight o’clock at evening, which actually works for some folks. However as a girl, I’ve seen for me that earlier window tends to work higher. So if somebody’s experimenting and never seeing good outcomes, that may be one suggestion I might have is shift the window earlier and see if that makes a distinction for you.
Tina: Yeah, I really like that. I don’t do it that manner. So I might need to provide {that a} attempt. However I like to really feel, you’re completely proper although in regards to the, you already know, even when you simply cease consuming earlier and also you go to mattress and you then simply, precisely 12 hours will not be that tough to do and also you’re, you already know, simply begin consuming just a little bit earlier.
Katie: Completely. And that’s like, once more, again to that kind of optimistic suggestions loop of stress and sleep and intestine well being and all of those components. The nice factor is that if they’re not working for you, they’ll form of turn out to be a detrimental suggestions loop. However when you even make optimistic child steps in any of these, it turns right into a optimistic suggestions loop they usually construct on one another. So then vitality will get higher. It’s simpler to decide to doing the issues you already know you need to do. You may make these habits extra constant and you then proceed to construct that vitality and that motivation. So I really like that we’ve gotten to cowl so lots of the points of that optimistic suggestions loop at present.
And some questions I additionally like to ask towards the top of interviews. I do know I’ve requested you these earlier than, however I’m curious in case you have any, whether or not it’s new e book suggestions or current books which have had a optimistic influence on you and in that case, what they’re and why.
Tina: Yeah, it’s humorous as a result of I all the time return to the 4 Agreements as a result of I do know it’s been used so typically, however I learn it so typically and I simply gave it to a younger household buddy who’s a younger man who’s going off to varsity and he mentioned, Mrs. Anderson, oh my God, I simply learn this e book and it actually made such a distinction and you already know, I’m actually having fun with it. And I simply, I’ve to say it once more, as a result of I do assume it’s price rereading if folks haven’t learn it as a result of it actually has made an enormous distinction in my life.
And I talked about Wayne Dyer and one in every of his books, he’s acquired so many nice books, however one of many ones that I can see clearly now could be actually, actually good. And that’s most likely the place I realized probably the most about forgiveness. And I simply assume it’s actually nice for anybody that’s perhaps battling forgiveness. His, and simply his life story, it’s mainly like a life story and the way you might see a lot clearer, you already know, years later and the way it makes such an influence in your life to love, forgive and watch out with the phrases that you simply select. And yeah, these are some books that actually have been impactful to me and I reread them on a regular basis.
Katie: I’ll embrace hyperlinks to these within the present notes for you guys listening on the go. All of that’s all the time at wellnessmama.fm together with hyperlinks to all the merchandise you guys carry. And I imagine there’s additionally a particular low cost from you guys that will probably be within the present notes as nicely. And lastly, any parting recommendation for the listeners at present that might be associated to motherhood or intestine well being or mindset or any of the issues we’ve talked about or solely unrelated life recommendation.
Tina: Yeah, you already know what I might say, simply because we had been speaking about children, I feel, simply spend time along with your children. I feel that’s most likely one of many largest issues that has impacted my relationship and my husband’s relationship with our children is simply the truth that we’re spending numerous time, we’ve, we spent numerous time with them and it’s these little, these moments of windshield time, which we, a buddy of ours coined so eloquently, you already know, simply you’re considering like, oh, when you’re driving them right here and there, you’re probably not spending, it’s not high quality time. Consider me, that’s typically probably the most high quality time you get is driving them forwards and backwards to actions. They begin to discuss extra. So simply take pleasure in these occasions with them and be thankful for them as a result of they go by so quick. As you already know, how unhappy I’ve been that my children have gotten older.
Katie: It does go by so quick. I feel my oldest one, turning 16, was an enormous, like a form of lightning bolt second for me of realizing simply how little time I might have left with him nonetheless at residence. And so, yeah, I really like that recommendation. I feel that’s an ideal place to wrap up for at present. And Tina, it’s all the time such a pleasure to speak to you. I’m so glad that we acquired to catch up and that we acquired to document it at present. Thanks a lot on your time.
Tina: Thanks, Katie. At all times a beautiful pleasure to speak to you.
Katie: And thanks as all the time to all of you for listening and sharing your most beneficial assets, your time, your vitality, and your consideration with us at present. We’re each so grateful that you simply did, and I hope that you’ll be a part of me once more on the following episode of the Wellness Mama Podcast.
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